"The roller coaster of our language learning"

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"The roller coaster of our language learning"

Message  Paula le Dim 8 Mar - 9:59

It consoles me to know that, “forgetting, is part of the natural swing of progression” What do you think about this article?
(The first page is just the index)


http://www.biblioteka.anglisty.pl/upload/File/language_hungry.pdf
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Re: "The roller coaster of our language learning"

Message  gerardM le Dim 8 Mar - 10:11

Hi Paula,

Thanks for posting about this exciting subject.
I will try to read the article as soon as possible and let you know my opinion.
Seeya.

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Re: "The roller coaster of our language learning"

Message  MurielB le Dim 8 Mar - 22:34

Hi Paula !
I also need time and thanks you for posting such interesting articles !

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Re: "The roller coaster of our language learning"

Message  MurielB le Lun 9 Mar - 9:41

Hi Paula !
I have read chapter 1 very carefully and noted all the good advice. For me what is important is sustaining the motivation. Everyone has their own motivation. Language learning can be for a job promotion, for travelling, for exams etc. For me the motivation is more philosophical and I enjoy reading "salon multilingue" posts. I totally agree that multilingualism and multiculturalism are  the world richness. The "café polyglotte" concept=>"café polyglotte sur le net + polyglot café network can help. Very Happy

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Re: "The roller coaster of our language learning"

Message  JeanPierreD le Lun 9 Mar - 15:49

HI Paula
Thank you for the interesting posting, quite relevant to our interest and love for languages (and certainly useful for you in your teaching tasks ! ) .
The most important thing for me is the close and important link between learning and emotion, and besides I think emotion is everywhere , even if we can regret it, it's part of our inner mental functioning . It should be an help but it's sometimes an hindrance.
Last week in the cafe polyglot in Calais I met a man ( in his fifties) who told me every five minutes that learning english was difficult, as an excuse for the mistakes he makes, regardless of mine he didn't even notice . ... This feeling seemed to be really depressing for him, and instead of trying to speak or reformulate he stopped, waiting for his wife to continue for him..
In his plant, his boss is very supportive and would like his employee ( who must be kind of manager) be more fluent in English, which is certainly crucial for running important meeting for exemple . He knows it is important for him to climb the ladder. At work he takes two hours lessons a week (or less I don't remember) and told me that often he feel sad because his teacher who is native english corrects him every time , for every mistake... So the first mistake of this teacher ( who must be a good teacher otherwise) according this post is perhaps not to give enough signs, that his pupil is on the good path, that he is improving (a pad on the shoulder !) ; every time he corrects the pupil, this one thinks in himself, "yes this teacher is very good and very serious he notices every mistakes i make, he worthes the 130 euros my boss gives him for the job !" but in the same time a more negative thought : "yes he corrects me so often, I am very bad at speaking English !, I will never manage it " . He told me too that after two hours face-to-face with the teacher he feels tired . So the second mistake of this teacher is not to notice the fluctuations of the attention of his pupils . He would be certainly better to take two time one hour lesson than two hours in a row .... but is it possible in the schedule of the teacher and the manager ?
I think it's a whole booklet about teaching and learning languages , I will try to find the following chapters on the internet, if it is possible .
Thank you anyway Paula it was VERY interesting .
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Re: "The roller coaster of our language learning"

Message  Paula le Mar 10 Mar - 17:33


Muriel, I agree with you that to keep learning you need motivation. I see that yours is a deep motivation, what it gives an extra sense to your language learning!
 I think that thanks to that, Cafe de Paris and the café-polyglotte is working!! So THANK YOU for this wonderful idea!!

 I like very much the quotation from this article: “you can’t stop the waves, but you can learn to surf” (J. Kabat Zinn). It reminds me another one which I have read these days: “If you really want to do something, you’ll find a way. If you don’t, you’ll find an excuse”

Jean Pierre, you’re right! This article is quite useful for me especially, the last part “the effective helper” and very especially, what is referred to the motivation and interest.

 Thank you for sharing the event with this man, because it’s an excellent example which illustrate quite well “the close and important link between learning and emotion” as you say. We are speaking about languages but, it happens the same with the rest of subjects at the school. In general, our educational systems are focus on teaching a lot of contents and they don’t care about interest or motivation of each student. Also, marks or grades are saying “you are good...” , “you are bad at...”, there isn’t something in the middle. We mainly teach to be competitive in the world... During this “imposed way or direction” students don’t like what they are obligated to learn... and at the end, in most cases they learn for exams, not for the life, THEIR life according with their preferences.

(Please if you are able to find the full article, let me know it)
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