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Message  gerardM le Ven 13 Oct - 18:41


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Message  MurielB le Ven 13 Oct - 22:11

That's why it's so important to build in a relaxation routine for those times when life goes wrong !

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Message  gerardM le Ven 13 Oct - 23:22


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Message  MurielB le Sam 14 Oct - 18:19

I think it would be better to teach elementary children philosoply and to keep that matter all along their studies because many of our little ones ' questions have philosophical content and it is important to open their minds. 17 or 18 is too late. Do you think  governments want to manipulate dumb people ?
https://phil.washington.edu/why-study-philosophy

“Philosophy” comes from Greek words meaning “love of wisdom.”  Philosophy uses the tools of logic and reason to analyze the ways in which humans experience the world.  It teaches critical thinking, close reading, clear writing, and logical analysis; it uses these to understand the language we use to describe the world, and our place within it.  Different areas of philosophy are distinguished by the questions they ask.  Do our senses accurately describe reality?  What makes wrong actions wrong?  How should we live?  These are philosophical questions, and philosophy teaches the ways in which we might begin to answer them.

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Message  gerardM le Sam 14 Oct - 20:00

Muriel,
I personally think that the French are not winging/whinging enough LOL
They should study philosophy earlier to think by themselves.
I agree that governments tend to take much money from most people and give a bit of money to others (sometimes the same) so that people depend on the government for their well-being... and shut up Wink
Slavery is not eradicated.

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Message  gerardM le Sam 14 Oct - 21:10


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Message  MurielB le Sam 14 Oct - 22:06

gerardM a écrit:
Muriel,
I personally think that the French are not winging/whinging enough LOL
They should study philosophy earlier to think by themselves.
I agree that governments tend to take much money from most people and give a bit of money to others (sometimes the same) so that people depend on the government for their well-being... and shut up Wink
Slavery is not eradicated.
whatever goverments may think, I believe in philosophy and the right of people to think for themselves.

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Message  gerardM le Sam 14 Oct - 23:56

MurielB a écrit:...
whatever goverments may think, I believe in philosophy and the right of people to think for themselves.
Yes Muriel but any governments try to keep the people quiet and obedient: in the ancient Rome, it was done by public games in arenas, in France it's done by letting people organize demonstrations, by picking up people's money and giving it back to others, in other countries, it done by threat, etc.
Every gov tend to prevent people from thinking too much by themselves (propaganda, biased/truncated information, "ballons d'essais",...).

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Message  MurielB le Dim 15 Oct - 8:53

I agree and that’s the reason why I hate politics !

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Message  gerardM le Dim 15 Oct - 11:28

MurielB a écrit:I agree and that’s the reason why I hate politics !
Politics is absolutely necessary but there're several ways to organize life in "the city"/in a group of persons... it doesn't include -of course- making big personal money with public taxes.

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Message  MurielB le Dim 15 Oct - 14:07

Politics is absolutely necessary
I agree but if you do politics you are manipulated and enjoyment of life is no longer for you.

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Message  gerardM le Dim 15 Oct - 14:29

MurielB a écrit:
Politics is absolutely necessary
I agree but if you do politics you are manipulated and enjoyment of life is no longer for you.
> if you do politics
Do you mean "if you are a politician" or "if, as a citizen, you keep an eye on politicians"?

Citizens, lobbyists, union members, workers... everyone tries to influence the laws of the country.
As a citizen, we have to obbey the laws that were voted.
> enjoyment of life is no longer for you
Politician or citizen, I can't see why.

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Message  gerardM le Dim 15 Oct - 14:39


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Message  gerardM le Dim 15 Oct - 14:43


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Message  gerardM le Dim 15 Oct - 16:40


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Message  gerardM le Dim 15 Oct - 17:37


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Message  MurielB le Dim 15 Oct - 22:38

gerardM a écrit:
MurielB a écrit:
Politics is absolutely necessary
I agree but if you do politics you are manipulated and enjoyment of life is no longer for you.
> if you do politics
Do you mean "if you are a politician" or "if, as a citizen, you keep an eye on politicians"?

Citizens, lobbyists, union members, workers... everyone tries to influence the laws of the country.
As a citizen, we have to obbey the laws that were voted.
> enjoyment of life is no longer for you
Politician or citizen, I can't see why.

Gérard I agree that it is important to have a competent president and vote for the right one (extremists are no good) but when you want to contribute to the  world change, it is better not to rely on politics which is a power game  affraid

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Message  gerardM le Lun 16 Oct - 14:51


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Message  MurielB le Lun 16 Oct - 22:38

It's usually the other way round. We trust people with action, not with words !

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