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Muriel,

I wrote several remarks several times to let you note Sequence of tenses existed in English as well (at least British English) i.e. in beautiful language (correct language) the tense in a clause has to match the tense in neighboring clauses.
I don't know if I managed to convince you but today's posting confirms and explains: Okay for the direct speech when there's a quote, but in the indirect speech we must respect the Sequence of tenses - if there's a past tense in the main clause, there has to be a past tense in the subordinates; in French as in British English it's a mistake not to respect.
You, once, responded that after a past in the main, you used a present because the statement (in the subordinate) was still right... no Muriel, grammar and languages don't have anything to do with logic; "a group of two thousands people IS..."

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Message  gerardM le Dim 7 Jan - 15:58

Regarding reported speech, I'd like to point out French is so weird. Native French don't realize their language is so difficult sometimes for foreigners who have to learn (we're lucky we don't have to learn French grammar as soon as most parts of our grammar was taught by parents, siblings, relatives, neighbors, everyday's life, etc).

Look:
-> I asked the salesperson: "Please, where's this item that we see on the catalog?"
.> I asked the salesperson where the item was.
I don't want to point the Sequence of tenses Smile but the fact that in English, in the reported/indirect speech, the interrogative form "where's this item" (pronoun verb subject) of the direct speech is transformed into the affirmative form "where the item was" (pronoun subject verb).
As far as I know this is mandatory in English: subject-verb (of course you could find native people using poor language).
It's not the case in French and, moreover, things are very complicated, not clear at all.

-> "j'ai demandé au vendeur où était l'article recherché" is correct (verb-subject in reported speech: weird)... "où l'article recherché était" is weird
-> "j'ai demandé au vendeur où il était" is correct (subject-verb)... "... où était-il..." is impossible
->  "j'ai demandé au vendeur où l'article se trouvait" is correct (... où se trouvait l'article is correct as well)
What do you think? Do you want me to write down other weird examples that disturb foreign students? Yes we are lucky to be born French Smile

Remember well - In English reported speech, we always have the order of the affirmative pattern: subject-verb.

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Message  gerardM le Dim 7 Jan - 17:44




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Of course, you're not going to learn these 200+ idioms: boring and impossible to remember.
Read once (or two times) and just remember a few ones (or none) you'll find interesting, remarquable, easy, surprising, or whatever.
There're several ways to learn from being sure to have met once and understand it (From En to Fr) to being able to use it correctly.

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Message  MurielB le Dim 7 Jan - 21:29

I personally like the expressions with "apple "like apple of one's eye
[*]apple of discord but there are are many more

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A list of apple idioms
Let’s have a look at the role of apple idioms in the English language…

Good and bad apples

Apples in expressions often seem to be used as an equivalent for the word thing or person. Somebody can be described as a good apple, bad apple, or rotten apple, and New York City even becomes the Big Apple. In Spanish, to take a walk around the block is to dar una vuelta a la manzana (‘to walk around the apple’). In Cockney rhyming slang apples are stairs (after apples and pears) while round objects seem particularly susceptible to comparison, unsurprisingly: old apple for baseball, love apple for tomato (in archaic use), and that ‘projection at the front of the neck formed by the thyroid cartilage of the larynx, often prominent in men’, otherwise known as the Adam’s apple (and, earlier, Adam’s morsel). More on Adam later…

Apples are not the only fruit

Other expressions note the way in which an apple is not like something that is not an apple. In North American use, two people or things are described as apples and oranges if they are irreconcilably or fundamentally different (a British equivalent is chalk and cheese). Further back is the now-obsolete phrase as like as an apple to an oyster (and variants) with the same indication.

How do you like them apples?

It’s not entirely clear why apples have been designated as the objects that summarize a general state or eventuality, but they have – as the expression how do you like them apples? attests. It is colloquial and chiefly used in North America, and usually used in a jeering way, implying that the thing referred to will be unwelcome – and was memorably used by Matt Damon’s Will in the 1997 film Good Will Hunting.

She’s apples

In a similar line, but altogether more positively, Australian and New Zealand English include the slang reassurance she’s apples or it’s apples – i.e. everything is, or will be, fine. As the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) note adds, this is ‘perhaps short for either apples and spice or apples and rice, apparently rhyming slang for nice, although there is apparently no evidence to support this’.

The apple of my eye

Continuing in the positive line, somebody is described as the apple of my eye if they are the particular object of a person’s affection or regard. This use dates back to Old English, but the expression apple of the eye originally denoted the pupil of the eye, considered to be a globular solid body. In early use, the figurative version was frequently in allusion to Biblical passages including Psalm 17:8: ‘Keep me as the apple of your eye, hide me in the shadow of your wings’.

The apple never falls far from the tree

This little tip would have helped Newton no end. The apple never does fall from the tree – except perhaps in cases of a strong gale – and this is used figuratively as a proverb meaning ‘important family characteristics are usually inherited’. It can be used either positively or negatively, to draw comparison between somebody and one or both of their parents. (Incidentally, in French tomber dans les pommes – fall into the apples – is a euphemism for ‘to faint’).

An apple a day keeps the doctor away

Sadly, thorough and rigorous scientific experiment has suggested that an apple a day is not the key to immortality, but this rhyming advice about fruit intake has certainly entered public consciousness. The earliest-known example of a phrase along these lines is found in 1866, which claims it as a Pembrokeshire proverb; this particular instance is eat an apple on going to bed, and you’ll keep the doctor from earning his bread. This version, admittedly, makes it seem almost vindictive to stay healthy…

Apple of discord/contention/dissension

An apple that was a troublemaker was the apple of discord. To quote the OED note, this is used ‘with allusion to the myth that a golden apple inscribed ‘For the fairest’ was thrown by Eris, goddess of discord, among the guests at the wedding of Peleus and Thetis, and contended for by the goddesses Hera, Athene, and Aphrodite’. Now it is any cause or subject of strife or dissension. Indeed, introducing an apple of discord might well upset the apple cart – that is, ‘spoil a plan or disturb the status quo’.

Forbidden fruit

As sure as God made little apples (and variants) is used as a synonym for ‘certainly’ (as is the secular equivalent as sure as apples are apples). But one apple in particular is up for debate. Adam’s apple takes its name from the idea of the apple becoming lodged in Adam’s throat in the Garden of Eden, after he ate the forbidden fruit Eve gave him.
Forbidden fruit is used intentionally – because (as the OED entry for apple notes) nowhere in Genesis is it said that the fruit is an apple; in the Jewish Talmud it is variously identified as the grape, the fig, or wheat. The identification as an apple appears to have arisen in the post-classical Latin tradition – potentially as a pun between the classical Latin mālum (apple) and malum (evil). The term forbidden fruit has now taken on the wider meaning ‘a thing that is desired all the more because it is not allowed’.

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Message  gerardM le Dim 7 Jan - 21:47

Thanks for the additional expressions about apples Muriel.
However, it's bloody long to read (I tease you as you posted 2 times).

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Message  MurielB le Dim 7 Jan - 21:50

Sorry Gérard, have you read the text twice ? Wink I have just suppressed the first one.


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Message  gerardM le Dim 7 Jan - 21:54

MurielB a écrit:... I have just suppress the first one.
You deleted too many parts Muriel Very Happy

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Message  MurielB le Dim 7 Jan - 21:58

I have corrected my mistake

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Message  gerardM le Dim 7 Jan - 22:19

Sorry for being so strict scratch

LOL Such a famous forum has to be perfect Wink

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Chinese whispers – This expression originally comes from a children’s game. It is often used as a metaphor for mistakes and inaccurate information which comes from rumours or gossip.

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Message  gerardM le Jeu 11 Jan - 23:10

... our "téléphone arabe"?
AKA « le passe-parole », « le jeu du téléphone », « la rumeur » or « le bouche à oreille ».

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Message  MurielB le Jeu 11 Jan - 23:15

Right Gérard. It is a game in which one person whispers a message to the person next to them and the story is then passed progressively to several others, with inaccuracies accumulating as the game goes on.

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Message  gerardM le Ven 12 Jan - 14:34

MurielB a écrit:... with inaccuracies accumulating as the game goes
Right, I don't understand anything when my granddaughter laughs so much she can't speak clearly enough for my old ears. C\'est vrai!!

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