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Message  gerardM le Sam 8 Aoû - 19:25

News from Science


New research shows butterflies use nectar to drug unsuspecting ants with mind-altering chemicals. The drugged ants are used as butterfly bodyguards to protect growing caterpillars from wasps and spiders.



Butterflies drug ants, turn them into bodyguards
Butterflies secretly drug their ant hosts with performance-enhancing chemicals
NEWS.SCIENCEMAG.ORG



Many animals may not be as stupid as humans think.

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Message  MurielB le Sam 8 Aoû - 21:07

Thanks Gérard for the link ! It's extraordinary !

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Message  gerardM le Sam 8 Aoû - 21:19

Muriel,

Isn't it awesome how smart living-beings are? Personal abilities and creativity, social organisation, communication, synchronization, etc. even slavery, perversity scratch !

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Message  MurielB le Dim 9 Aoû - 16:25

Gérard there are the worst and the best at the same time.


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Message  Admin le Mar 11 Aoû - 19:53

Thanks Teilhard for your reflexions here, but here is  a english room.

How is reflective consciousness appeared on earth? It must be defined. "By not thinking" man acquires the ability to "not only knowledge but (to) know that he knows." The man "acquired a conscience ... to fall back on itself, and to take possession of itself as of a given object of its consistency and its particular value: not known, but recognize. Not only knowledge, but know we know. By this individuation itself the living element, hitherto prevalent and divided over a diffuse circle of perceptions and activities, is constituted for the first time in punctiforme center where all representations and experiences are formed and consolidated in a conscious throughout its organization. "Conscience is the inchoate -it tiny quantum particles? Is she emergence of a new "by saltation" from a certain level of complexity? The systémiciens lean towards this hypothesis. It could even be pre-programmed in the virtual orbital quantum! The appearance of man calls for a "new covenant" information E, E as informative overall hypostasis / Matter. Asked Is the evolution predetermined? The answer is yes, even if it does not go in a positivist direction. Related to E by directional orbital probability Pauli, it is predictable to Dambricourt, Fleury, Chaline

Each Monad (or cosmic function unit) is subject to the same internal information via RNA / DNA torque which is the relay transmitter as this evolutionary process, effector materials. Jumps a plan of organization to another predetermined orbits are in a virtual saltationiste sense emergentist. So for A. Dambricourt Mallassé, each species Homo (Australopithecus, Pithecanthropus Erectus etc.), is generated by a new definite verticalization of a precise angulation Sphenoid. What goes in the direction of Biblical Reference: (AT Jeremiah 1-5): "Before I was forming you in the womb I knew you" .E determines through time a rise of consciousness: "She represents the true path (neguentropic) of our universe through time "PH Under its action continues in the Axis cerebralization there is a rise in the number of neurons that go together with the rise of consciousness "the fruit that ripens" in cosmogenesis! R. Laughlin (Nobel prize in 2005) admits that "emerges, as at every level of greater complexity, greater autonomy of the psychic apparatus. "(Autofinalisation) I mention next time the position of scientists about the book I just read on the death of the death of Laurent ALEXANDRE

Google translated it for you and I hope that next time you'll write down in .... Angleterre
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Message  Paula le Dim 16 Aoû - 13:11

gerardM a écrit:I would like to point out that if humans tend to respect other living beings, it looks like they respects other humans less and less...

Hi!
    Even when I don’t know many things about religion...  Gerad, I see your pointwhen you talk about the Catholic religion... But this fact makes me think of, on one hand, other religions like the Buddhism or the Jainism (one of the oldest Indian religions) and on another hand, in human being before religion, these groups of persons knew how to live harmoniously with nature (all the animal or plant kingdom).
 In your previous comment, it’s very interested as well, when you ask ‘how about plants?’ You’re right, in general nowadays people used to concern about animals, which we see eating, moving, with babies, and so on, and maybe we're  more inclined to feel sorry for them... But there are less people worried about vegetables...
   Where I live, we have lots of green areas and mountains and criminal and IGNORANT people are burning our woods without feeling any pity... But the worst it isn’t the terrible fact that we have less trees, flowers, wild species, etc. THE WORST IT’S THAT MOST PEOPLE AROUND (not the criminal ones), AREN’T CONCIOUS ABOUT THE DAMAGE THEY ARE MAKING TO THE EARTH... They don’t know anything about that. They can see the news and really don’t care about forest fires. This is really sad!
   And is it necessary to think of trees, plants and ants have soul?? Of course, they do...  since our origin comes from this enormous and marvellous world.... We are connected with them, and of course NO DOUBTS that we should protect OUR HOUSE, where we get our clothes, our oxygen to breathe, our food, our water....
   I don’t agree with “if humans tend to respect other living beings, it looks like they respect other humans less and less”. On one side, I believe that people who are able to respect other beings, they are more respectful to people. On the other side, when you protect environment, under my point of view, you are protected rest of people directly.
    Fortunately, nowadays we discover wonderful and magic facts about nature, like these ones which Florent or Gerad share with us and luckily, there are some persons that value these amazing world where we have the 'permission' to live harmoniously, the same right like the rest of beings have (plants, bees, ape, lions and an enormous etcetera)!
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Message  gerardM le Dim 16 Aoû - 14:44

Hi Paula,

> gerardM a écrit:
> I would like to point out that if humans tend to respect other living beings,
> it looks like they respects other humans less and less...
First of all, there's a spelling in my words: "it looks like they respects respect".

When I was a kid, people around me easily hurt birds, kicked dogs, cats, or other animals... nowadays, people are more aware of "animal rights" and the importance of them as simply other living beings, that's why I was writing: "tend to respect other living beings".
If I'm thinking about what happens in the Middle East, in Africa, I can't help thinking: "they respect other humans less and less".

~~

I guess I already wrote somewhere that I felt uncomfortable and stopped harrassing animals when I purchased a wonderful old house built in 1905... I had to chase spiders (small kind ones) inside MY home, blackbirds in MY cherry trees, mice in MY garden. After a few days I just said to myself: "OK they didn't sign at the notary's, they didn't pay but it's not a reason, they don't care about papers, they were around this house before me and I can't pretend being the only owner of the house!"

~~

I like reading texts about history of the universe, of our planet, life on Earth, human evolution, prehistory, etc. how could I pretend this Earth belongs to humans more than to ants, spiders, or others that arrived on Earth way before us!

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Message  Teilhard le Sam 22 Aoû - 19:37

How is reflective consciousness appeared on earth? It must be defined. "By not thinking" man acquires the ability to "not only knowledge but (to) know that he knows." The man "acquired a conscience ... to fall back on itself, and to take possession of itself as of a given object of its consistency and its particular value: not known, but recognize. Not only knowledge, but know we know. By this individuation itself the living element, hitherto prevalent and divided over a diffuse circle of perceptions and activities, is constituted for the first time in punctiforme center where all representations and experiences are formed and consolidated in a conscious throughout its organization. "Conscience is the inchoate -it tiny quantum particles? Is she emergence of a new "by saltation" from a certain level of complexity? The systémiciens lean towards this hypothesis. It could even be pre-programmed in the virtual orbital quantum! The appearance of man calls for a "new covenant" information E, E as informative overall hypostasis / Matter. Asked Is the evolution predetermined? The answer is yes, even if it does not go in a positivist direction. Related to E by directional orbital probability Pauli, it is predictable to Dambricourt, Fleury, Chaline

Each Monad (or cosmic function unit) is subject to the same internal information via RNA / DNA torque which is the relay transmitter as this evolutionary process, effector materials. Jumps a plan of organization to another predetermined orbits are in a virtual saltationiste sense emergentist. So for A. Dambricourt Mallassé, each species Homo (Australopithecus, Pithecanthropus Erectus etc.), is generated by a new definite verticalization of a precise angulation Sphenoid. What goes in the direction of Biblical Reference: (AT Jeremiah 1-5): "Before I was forming you in the womb I knew you" .E determines through time a rise of consciousness: "She represents the true path (neguentropic) of our universe through time "PH Under its action continues in the Axis cerebralization there is a rise in the number of neurons that go together with the rise of consciousness "the fruit that ripens" in cosmogenesis! R. Laughlin (Nobel prize in 2005) admits that "emerges, as at every level of greater complexity, greater autonomy of the psychic apparatus. "(Autofinalisation) I mention next time the position of scientists about the book I just read on the death of the death of Laurent ALEXANDRE
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Message  MurielB le Dim 3 Juin - 22:31

Gérard a écrit:Well, take great care! Sign meanings are very different depending on the countries!
Hi everyone
As we have now in Café polyglotte de Calais, a sign language table, body language interests me all the more so.  Mind you, sign language is not universal and body language is worse because you can very easily put your foot in when you don't know what is written in the rectangles  below
Of course the above video was also very clear  Gestures across cultures  
http://www.businessinsider.fr/us/body-language-around-the-world-2015-3
 



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Message  MurielB le Jeu 28 Juin - 6:11

Tx Charles
When words fail music speaks

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Message  MurielB le Dim 2 Sep - 10:58

Yes music is a wonderful language

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Message  MurielB le Ven 28 Sep - 22:44

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jun/10/facial-awareness-the-meaning-of-a-smile

Facial awareness: the meaning of a smile

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     ‘People smile more when in public than they do when alone, and more when interacting with others than when not.’ Illustration: Nate Kitch for the Observer

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Message  MurielB le Ven 28 Sep - 22:54

For me there is a fundamental question
Martinez a écrit:where does language come from ?
It is very interesting. One  of the hypotheses of the appearance of language in humans is that first they learned to move their facial muscles and over time it evolved into what we call language. We have now a sign language table in Calais polyglot. The way they move their hands and fingers is interesting but what I find really amazing is the way they express themselves with their eyes and their facial expressions. The relationship between people is a lot more  visible. they can't pretend, they can't lie !

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