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Message  gerardM le Mar 7 Mai - 19:50

Oh merci Muriel !
Mais, tu ne me l'avais jamais dit !!! Wink

La Fayette est un héros aux USA mais je ne savais pas que nous avions une plaque parlant de Jefferson !
Je vais essayer de déchiffrer ce qui est écrit !
-> http://www.monnuage.fr/point-d-interet/hommage-a-thomas-jefferson-a106802

Regarde toutes les plaques commémoratives qui ont été mises en France en 2009 (une quarantaine) !
-> http://france.usembassy.gov/event090623.html

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Message  Guilaine le Mar 7 Mai - 20:15

Bonjour Muriel,

Je découvre par ton message la plaque de Jefferson qui se trouve près de la Gare de Calais !! Il faut que j'aille la voir de près !

Je suis très intéressée par Jefferson, j'ai visité sa maison à Monticello près de Charlottesville (Virginia) et j'ai lu deux livres très intéressants à son sujet : "Jefferson at Monticello", recollections of a Monticello slave and of a Monticello overseer.
"Sally Hemings & Thomas Jefferson" Sally était une de ses esclaves et également sa maîtresse ; elle lui a donné plusieurs enfants, qu'il a, à sa demande, et en fin de vie, "libérés", mais de manière clandestine. C'est incroyable de lire que cet homme, qui était au fond anti-esclavagiste, avait lui-même des quantités d'esclaves (j'ai visité leurs logements, les terrains qu'ils cultivaient, etc.), une maîtresse noire, des enfants légitimes avec son épouse (2 filles, je crois) et des enfants illetrés qu'ils n'éduquaient pas comme ses filles blanches.

Il a passé quelque temps en France avec Sally ; elle aurait voulu y rester et être affranchie, mais n'a pas réussi.
Ses relations avec les Français étaient excellentes, d'où la plaque, symbole de l'amitié franco-américaine.


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Message  MurielB le Mar 7 Mai - 23:00

Merci Guilaine et Gérard pour les commentaires que cette photo suscite ! je suis contente de l'avoir mise sur le forum Very Happy !

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passer ses vacances aux Etats Unis et notamment à New York est source d'optimisme

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Message  gerardM le Lun 13 Mai - 11:52

Merci Muriel !

C'est un état d'esprit quel que soit le lieu mais c'est vrai que certains peuples savent prendre les choses du bon côté, comme elles viennent (ce qui n'empêche pas la rapidité de réaction et l'efficacité mais il ne faut pas se soucier des 36 choses qui pourraient arriver, or not) : des easygoing persons.

Mieux que les Américains, il y a les Australiens : no worries!

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Northern Ireland à la découverte de la culture bretonne

Message  gerardM le Mar 10 Sep - 23:30

Hi everyone,

An article for you Smile

-> Northern Ireland à la découverte de la culture bretonne
BBC Northern Ireland a diffusé cette année une série consacrée à l’héritage celtique européen à travers la découverte de différentes cultures européennes. Sur les 4 documentaires de 52 minutes (entièrement en
gaélique), le premier est consacré à la Bretagne.

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Message  gerardM le Ven 11 Oct - 16:53

Hi there!

Gosh! I'd to dig far back to May 2011 to find this thread!

I already wrote here about the respect of American re sex and genders.

Is there any language that doesn't have a different series of words for masculine and feminine?

- French? no, French language has got different words - boulanger-boulangère and if the language exceptionally forgot, the feminists claim: la professeure, l'écrivaine
- German? no: dir Bäckerin
- Italian? no.
- Russian? no.

- English? YES
In English, there're no masculine/feminine word for the jobs.

Moreover, if French gives the precedence to masculine such as "les 36 filles et le garçon ont mis leur beau costume : ils sont très beaux !"...

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Message  MurielB le Ven 11 Oct - 21:21

Hi Gérard, everyone
You are right but I tried to find exceptions. What about waiter and waitress

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Message  gerardM le Ven 11 Oct - 21:33

Hi Muriel,

Good show! I hadn't found it.

Of course I didn't consider the words ending with -woman like businesswoman, saleswoman.
I don't know if I can count "maid" as this word has got a feminine connotation.

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Message  MurielB le Ven 11 Oct - 21:47

the masculine of maid doen't exist I think.

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Message  gerardM le Ven 11 Oct - 22:22

MurielB a écrit:the masculine of maid doen't exist I think.
Right!

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Suisse - P-DGEP-02A-02- Enseignement de langue et culture d’origine (ELCO) (remplace les directives D-DGEP-02A-32- et D-DGEP-02B-14-)

Message  gerardM le Sam 26 Oct - 15:23

Bonjour à tous,

Une publication de Suisse
-> P-DGEP-02A-02- Enseignement de langue et culture d’origine (ELCO) (remplace les directives D-DGEP-02A-32- et D-DGEP-02B-14-)
Préambule

L’élève allophone ne peut véritablement apprendre le français que si sa langue d’origine est bien structurée. Dans cette optique, il est important d’encourager les élèves à participer aux cours de langue et culture d’origine (LCO).

Les consulats, les ambassades de divers pays ou des associations culturelles organisent leurs cours de LCO, en accord avec la direction générale de l’enseignement primaire (DGEP), dans les locaux scolaires, à raison de deux ou trois heures hebdomadaire

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a new exhibition in the quai Branly museum on the kanak culture

Message  JeanPierreD le Mer 13 Nov - 12:12

During my last stay in Paris i visited two exhibitions , one at the quai Branly museum and an other one in the former Orsay railway station.
In the quai Branly it was « Kanak, l’Art est une parole », the largest exhibition ever held on Kanak culture from New Caledonia, this piece of France at the other end of the world … It brings together more than 300 exceptional works and documents  from public collections in Europe and New Caledonia . It features many previously unseen and spectacular pieces ; wooden carving from the Grand huts,  impressive ceremonial axes , pole sculptures and a diverse sélection of statuettes and ornaments .
This exhibition 22 years after « De jade et de Nacre » (also held in Paris and Noumea ) is based on new data: museographical (a complete inventory of the objects in the world's public collections : the scientific inventory of the dispersed Kanak culture has enabled the discovery of important and unique objects, sometimes forgotten in museum reserves), vernacular (the recording of immaterial Kanak culture which has been carried out over the last 10 years) and resulting from anthropological and historical data.
We can guess a lot of work have been necessary to prepare this important exhibition which will end mid january and then presented at the Centre Culturel Tjibaou in Noumea,  from march 15 to june 15,  2014.
New Caledonia is a sui generis collectivity to which France has gradually transferred certain powers, and some posters are dedicated to the sad history of colonialism  and more recent violent events .
There is also some contemporary kanak art among the antiques and a show about ( a film) Jean-Marie Tjibaou who is one icon of the Kanak culture.
During my visit, I’ve learned a lot, for example that the revolutionary people of la Commune de Paris have been deported there, and used to put down the revolts of the kanak peoples whose lands were stolen by europeans. Among them only one person tried to understand the kanak culture , it was Louise Michel who even opened a school. This exhibition worths the visit .
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Message  MurielB le Ven 15 Nov - 13:39

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hx77wHe8Yk
JeanPierreD a écrit:During my last stay in Paris i visited two exhibitions , one at the quai Branly museum and an other one in the former Orsay railway station.
In the quai Branly it was « Kanak, l’Art est une parole », the largest exhibition ever held on Kanak culture from New Caledonia, this piece of France at the other end of the world … It brings together more than 300 exceptional works and documents  from public collections in Europe and New Caledonia . It features many previously unseen and spectacular pieces ; wooden carving from the Grand huts,  impressive ceremonial axes , pole sculptures and a diverse sélection of statuettes and ornaments .
This exhibition 22 years after « De jade et de Nacre » (also held in Paris and Noumea ) is based on new data: museographical (a complete inventory of the objects in the world's public collections : the scientific inventory of the dispersed Kanak culture has enabled the discovery of important and unique objects, sometimes forgotten in museum reserves), vernacular (the recording of immaterial Kanak culture which has been carried out over the last 10 years) and resulting from anthropological and historical data.
We can guess a lot of work have been necessary to prepare this important exhibition which will end mid january and then presented at the Centre Culturel Tjibaou in Noumea,  from march 15 to june 15,  2014.
New Caledonia is a sui generis collectivity to which France has gradually transferred certain powers, and some posters are dedicated to the sad history of colonialism  and more recent violent events .
There is also some contemporary kanak art among the antiques and a show about ( a film) Jean-Marie Tjibaou who is one icon of the Kanak culture.
During my visit, I’ve learned a lot, for example that the revolutionary people of la Commune de Paris have been deported there, and used to put down the revolts of the kanak peoples whose lands were stolen by europeans. Among them only one person tried to understand the kanak culture , it was Louise Michel who even opened a school. This exhibition worths the visit .
Thank you very much Jean-Pierre for letting us know about the exhibition.

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Message  gerardM le Sam 30 Nov - 21:29

Hi everyone,

Thanksgiving is one of the most celebrated day in the States. It takes place on the 4th Thursday of November.

Black Friday is the name of the day following Thanksgiving.
My own explanations (I didn't read the page on Wikipedia yet) -> It is named this way because it's the start of the sales which will last till Xmas. It's qualified of "black because the sales will be high and the result good (bad -say negative- is red in accounting, and positive is black).

-> Black Friday (shopping)

Do you know what?!?!?
the FNAC also uses this name now!!
-> La fnac sauce américaine : offres massives pour le Black Friday

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Message  gerardM le Ven 6 Déc - 18:14

Hi everyone,

A posting from Susan: American appear to celebrate any daily event Wink After Halloween, after Thanksgiving: St Nicholas.


What is this tradition? Gold coins in child's sneakers...

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Message  MurielB le Ven 6 Déc - 21:57

Hi Gerard
I didn't know about that tradition
https://www.rca.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=1685

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Message  MurielB le Ven 6 Déc - 21:58

This legend is the basis for the custom of placing gifts or gold coins in the shoes, stockings, or baskets of children during the night before the feast of St. Nicholas.
Hi Gerard
I didn't know about that tradition
https://www.rca.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=1685

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Message  gerardM le Ven 6 Déc - 22:52

Hi Muriel,

Thanks for your research and the link.

> baskets of children
Regarding "basket", I was stunned to find this word after "shoes".
I checked and as I thought, the word has nothing to do with the French "basket" (trainers or sneakers).

Finally not surprising that Americans have many traditions given the number of immigrants from varioous origins: British, Irish, Italians, Germans, Dutch, Spanish, etc.

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Message  gerardM le Dim 15 Déc - 15:00


(click pic to enlarge)

This is a photo published on Facebook by Susan, a good friend of mine.
No doubt it is a genuine Am tree.
I realize that I never saw a Christmas tree in America
(probably easy to find on Intenet tho)

What are these oranges? beautiful indeed!
What are these other slices? lemons (not the color)?
What's this thingy on the left?

Any help pls

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Message  MurielB le Dim 15 Déc - 19:37

Hi Gérard !
Yes this Christmas tree is obviously American. I had a look on the internet and read that the American Christmas tree was traditionally decorated with edibles such as apples or nuts . On Susan's Christmas tree the edibles are candied lemons and oranges. The colour is a bit different from the real fruit. I think that this thingy on the left is a cracker.
 I will try to find crackers for Christmas. They are so funny and add to the ambience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_cracker  Very Happy
Crackers are typically pulled at the Christmas dinner table or at parties. In one version of the cracker tradition, the person with the larger portion of cracker empties the contents from the tube and keeps them. In another each person will have their own cracker and will keep its contents regardless of whose end they were in. Typically these contents are a coloured paper hat; a small toy, small plastic model or other trinket and a motto, a joke, a riddle or piece of trivia on a small strip of paper.[3] The paper hats, with the appearance of crowns, are usually worn when eating Christmas dinner. The tradition of wearing festive hats is believed to date back to Roman times, and the Saturnalia celebrations, which also involved decorative headgear.[

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Message  gerardM le Dim 15 Déc - 20:06

Susan is the one who provides me with anti-GMO fighting information. No GMOs no fertilizers with her (she is a farmer).

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Message  gerardM le Ven 10 Jan - 17:25

Hi everyone,

I always watch such American exchanges which surprise me: I am not able to find good words - true that I am a man.

Cathy was born Quebecker ie she has many sisters and brothers (also a mother) and she moved to the US where she married an American... who died a few yers ago.
I think I already spoke about similar conversation... I wonder if it was not for her husband's death.
Cathy (Hier, à 05:26)
I've come to accept that happiness is a futile pursuit. It's an illusion we use as motivation to get up in the morning and do shit. Oh well, at least there's work. Gotta have something worthwhile I suppose. Every dog has its day? Life's a bitch and then you die.
Raymond I share your thoughts; I've come to the conclusion that good health is what we must target to lengthen our days on this planet. Bonne semaine quand même.
Cathy Indeed. Good physical, mental and emotional health are vital to long lives... It's been so long since I've had either that it amazes me that I still breathe. It all goes back to happiness. If that hope is there, we keep on trying just to spite the alternative. Many of my friends over the years have mentioned that I am strong. I'm really not. I just don't like the alternative and there was always some obstacle to overcome to keep me motivated. Now it's mountains upon mountains on top of ice. Those obstacles I can't overcome however much I would want to. In the famous words of Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon, I'm too old for this shit. I may not have the numbers, but I've got the scars to equate to it. There is not a single day that goes by that I'm not in pain. I'm writing this now because I can't sleep and it keeps my brain from wandering. This is why i stayed off fb for a while. I really don't have much in the way of positives to contribute. But since I don't really get to talk to anyone about shit like this, it has to go somewhere. Sorry for being a downer. Thanks for caring. It is appreciated.
Coly Can't argue with that. On the other hand doing new things is exciting and you have taken some huge steps that must have felt satisfying for a while.
Pieter {{hugs}} and chocolate help.
Tammy The days are getting longer & therefore more sunshine on the way. {{hugs}}
Joyce I think it's human nature to always be wanting to improve. The pursuit of happiness is ongoing I think. We attain something, then wonder why we still feel not quite fulfilled. So we just try and find a new thing to please ourselves... and the beat goes on, right BFF?
Cathy Coly, yeah but what that improved was just one part of my life, mostly things (as it should be). As I said many times in my life, I don't do the whole change thing well so it required a lot just to make those things happen. I can't put that amount of effort, will and focus into the rest that needs improvement. No amount of wishing will make my personal life suck less. Those were some of the thoughts going through my head last night as I lay there waiting for oblivion.

Pieter, you know they do.  {{{{ hugs }}}}} (just had to give you a lop-sided hug)

Tammy, I can't imagine going through another Canadian winter..... we've had a taste of real winter the last couple of days and my gawd I'd forgotten how much it sucks.

BFF, you perhaps know me best of all. I don't ask for much out of life, yet it seems I ask for too much. Goals are one thing, they distract you from the rest for a while, but when it gets dark and silent, those goals can't keep the ghosts out.

I look around and see happy, normal people going through their routines. They go to work, they pay their bills, they go on vacation....etc. They have family, husbands, wives, kids... cousins, in laws. They do things together, and it's as normal as normal can be. They all have zero idea of what it is like to have it all disappear in the blink of an eye. To one day wake up and realize that you aren't part of any of that. That it was all a big illusion. To go through the motions anyway because that's what is expected. To go to work (the only time when you're not reminded of just how bad your life sucks) and be content for a few hours. To return to an empty house that is almost exactly the way you left it (the only difference being the mess the cats make while you're gone)... It hits very hard, every single day. I'm not young anymore, I can't absorb it and keep going as if nothing was wrong anymore. And the depression is the most real thing there is in a world full of illusions.

Just some more thoughts. Ignorance is bliss.
Corrine Not cousins, in-laws or the like but as I look at the names above, and know the caring involved in the replies, I see another form of family. Although not physically there at the end of the day, always around with {{{HUGS}}}.

So, although we can't help with the physical pain you live with, know how much we care.
Robert In the pursuit of happiness, I think happiness is easy to find, it's contentment that makes it all worthwhile. It's harder to find and to attain. I think many philosophers have said this before so it's not a new concept and I take no credit for it. Nonetheless, it's sure got a ring of truth to it.
Nancy There are many positives about you so although it's natural to feel down sometimes, try to think of good in your life! Don't forget all your accomplishments, which others have alluded to and of which there are many!! If you think positively, good things will come to you!!
Coly Ever think of getting someone to share your house?
Corrine ^^^ In addition to Mary & Pippin.
Cathy Thanks guys (and gals). Life's still a bitch, but I know you care and that means a lot. I had a good evening with Jessica, AJ and the kids. Sometimes just being surrounded by people who care enough to give you hugs and share their time is enough to renew (or revitalize a little) me for a while.
Jessica (il y a 12 heures) You're very welcome. I missed you!
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I know most of the persons who posted; we are often chatting on Internet security forums. I didn't want to reply as I didn't want to make a mistake with some possible poor words (all of them are American but Pieter who is Dutch).

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Message  MurielB le Ven 10 Jan - 22:43

"Sometimes just being surrounded by people who care enough to give you hugs and share their time is enough to renew (or revitalize a little) me for a while"
All those people seem very close to one another. They naturally cheer Catherine up. They must be very nice ! They let their feelings go (Is it a good expression I am not sure scratch ) Is it more difficult for the French to behave like that ? Are Americans more empathic than we are ?

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Message  gerardM le Ven 10 Jan - 22:49

Hi Muriel,

> All those people seem very close to one another.
Most posters know Cathy just like me ie via Internet (except Raymond and Jessica) - Except Raymond, Jessica and Robert, I know everyone.
All of the posters are Americans - Raymond is Quebecker, Pieter is Dutch.

I'm not able to find right words.
I don't know about you but in France I mainly hear "Courage !", "On est avec toi !" or kind of moral replies or the like... rare very close friends can do better but I don't think the French are that good at expressing feelings.
The "Courage !" is equiivalent to {{hugs}}
I notice that Ray's reply is not very accurate... looks like a reply from a French (Ray is a Quebecker).
I notice that Pieter only wrote "{{hugs}} and chocolate help."; the Dutch may not be as comfortable as me (the allusion to chocolates is common joke as Pieter does love chockies).

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