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Message  gerardM Ven 21 Jan - 23:22

Howdy everyone,

A few years ago, I worked in a global company.
Our company took over an American one (Yes we can!) and one of our employees* wanted to complain he had not received a response to a message they** sent.

This employee was a beginner in English and didn't even asked (edit - thanks Ghislaine) for help thinking it was bloody*** easy! Wink
"I am very annoyed because I have not yet received your message : I demand just an answer !"
The sentence is crossed out as there're far too many mistakes.

Will you find them all?
- there are 2 tricky words that don't have the meaning expected by this beginner: what are they?
- there's a big grammatical mistake... and another big one...
- it's just pidgin! The addressees were not happy!

Notes:
*- "an employee of ours" is considered as too formal in the States
**- notice the "an employee" then "they"
"he/she" as well as "(s)he" could also be used.
"They" is not a plural here but this form is used when Am. don't know about the gender of the person and replaces he ou she. Respectful, isn't it?
***- "bloody" is a casual word that means "very" (it's considered as a swearword in British English)


Dernière édition par gerardM le Ven 4 Fév - 0:09, édité 1 fois (Raison : to fix a mistake Ghislaine pointed out)
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Message  MurielB Sam 22 Jan - 14:34

I am very annoyed because I have not yet received your message : I demand just an answer !"
The sentence is crossed out as there're far too many mistakes
Hi Gérard
"Annoy" and "Demand" are 2 "faux amis" I am annoyed means : I am cross and I demand means asking in a very forceful way
The first mistake is "I have not received your message yet" and the second is "I am demanding"
thank you
Muriel


i forgot to point out that just is before the verb thank you gerard


Dernière édition par MurielB le Sam 22 Jan - 17:39, édité 2 fois
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Message  gerardM Sam 22 Jan - 15:26

Hi Muriel,

Thanks a lot for your response! Smile

Again, the guy was a beginner/newbie/rookie and he (it was a man) translated the French sentence he had in mind... which is not correct.
He didn't want to be rude but...

"I am very annoyed" means "je suis très énervé/irrité" and not the simple "ennuyé".
"I demand" means "j'exige".

Okay, you pointed out the dodgy items...

and...

An important rule of English is: we must not separate a Direct Object from its verb (nothing in between except for poets LOL)!
But this mistake is othen made even by intermediate learners. Sad
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Message  gerardM Dim 23 Jan - 1:27

Hi everyone,

Do you think of other frequent mistakes made by beginners in addition to faux amis?
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Message  Guilaine Jeu 3 Fév - 18:31

We all make mistakes, as we think more quickly than we speak or write.

Read again your message : "this employee was a beginner and didn't even asked for help..."

This is another typical mistake we all make ; we should read : "and didn't even ask"

Thank you for all your very interesting articles, I enjoy reading them, especially when they refer to the grammar and use of a language.
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Message  gerardM Ven 4 Fév - 0:01

Very good point Ghislaine. You're quite right, thanks! :-)

"didn't even asked"
I'm not that proud as it's the kind of mistake beginners make: playing with the sentences from the affirmative to the negative form, to "never" and having to modify the verb.

~~ edit
I edited the 1st post as we must not leave mistakes.
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