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Message  gerardM Dim 10 Fév - 17:44

Hi everyone,

Something difficult when learning a language is to use correct prepositions.

Prepositions sometimes look random or say without much good reason.

A problem is that at school, there're not many lessons around this.

French / English
- aller à Paris / to go to Paris (at which would be the translation of "à")
- venir à Paris / to come to Paris at
- venir de Paris / to come from Paris of
- arriver à Paris / to arrive at/in Paris
- travailler chez Areva / to work at Areva by
- travailler à Lille / to work in Lille at
- dire qqc à qqn / to say sth to so - to tell so about sth
- écouter qqc / to listen to sth
- regarder qqc / to look at sth
- fournir qqc à qqn / to provide so with sth (but more various)

Do you learn each one by heart?
Do you have some tips?

Thanks.

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Message  gerardM Lun 18 Fév - 15:37

Hi everyone,

I remember a "rule" stating that homonyms are usually followed by the same preposition. However my problem is that I don't remmeber if it's valid in English or in German. scratch Please could you help me (I guess it's in German for declensions)? Wink

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Message  gerardM Lun 18 Fév - 16:04

Hi everyone,

Prepositions are a nightmare, aren't they?

Is there a way to get rid of them?
In German, a verb is followed by a declension case with or without a preposition in front, eg warten auf etwas (dative).
There're possibilities to get rid of this using prefixes -er or -be -> erwarten etwas (accusative ie transitive)

Is there a possibility to avoid prepositions in English like:
- to wait for sth / to await sth
- to wake sb up (bad example as the verb is transitive) / to awake
Handy, no? Wink
What do you know about this? Did you experience this kind of verbs?

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Message  MurielB Lun 18 Fév - 22:59

Hi Gérard, everyone
I personnaly tend to learn everything by heart and I don't have any tip, i am sorry Sad

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Message  gerardM Lun 18 Fév - 23:04

Muriel,

Boring and difficult to learn everything by heart, no?
I suppose that after years of experience, we can feel prepositions and learn exceptions only, no?

Does my sentence about prefixes to get rid of prepositions ring a bell?

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Message  MurielB Mar 19 Fév - 9:05

yes Gérard, it does ring a bell ! Unfortunately I can't find examples apart from "To wake up/ awake" Sad

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France Veuillez me corriger. J'aimerais m'améliorer
Angleterre Please correct me. I'd like to improve
Espéranto Bonvolu korekti min. Mi ŝatus plibonigi
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Message  MurielB Jeu 21 Fév - 8:13

I tried hard to think about what you mean but could not find anything (intelligent Very Happy ) to say. perhaps in german the separable verbs and the verbs which are not.
"synonyms are followed by the same prepositions and declension cases" Are you sure ?

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Prepositions in English 464818 Por favor, corríjanme. Me gustaría mejorar
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Italie Vi prego di correggermi. Vorrei migliorare
France Veuillez me corriger. J'aimerais m'améliorer
Angleterre Please correct me. I'd like to improve
Espéranto Bonvolu korekti min. Mi ŝatus plibonigi
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Message  MurielB Lun 23 Oct - 10:35

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Prepositions in English 91457 Bitte korrigieren Sie mich. Ich möchte mich verbessern
Italie Vi prego di correggermi. Vorrei migliorare
France Veuillez me corriger. J'aimerais m'améliorer
Angleterre Please correct me. I'd like to improve
Espéranto Bonvolu korekti min. Mi ŝatus plibonigi
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Message  MurielB Ven 15 Déc - 17:23

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Prepositions in English 91457 Bitte korrigieren Sie mich. Ich möchte mich verbessern
Italie Vi prego di correggermi. Vorrei migliorare
France Veuillez me corriger. J'aimerais m'améliorer
Angleterre Please correct me. I'd like to improve
Espéranto Bonvolu korekti min. Mi ŝatus plibonigi
MurielB
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