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Message  gerardM le Dim 5 Jan - 21:35

(Lexical Distance Among the Languages of Europe)
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Lexical Distance Among the Languages of Europe


I'm not knowledgeable enough to understand all of the outcome provided by the diagram but I guess how interesting it is!
I have to study this carefully.

Are there present languages only? old ones (Latin, ancient Greek...)? dialects?
There are items I cannot work out what languages they are: SRD, Pro, Rm, Cat, Glc, Cat... is Rm Latin?

Are Acronyms written in caps, languages still alive and those with a capital first letter only, dialects or ancient languages?
Where is Basque? Nowhere?


VERY INTERESTING!! :-)


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Re: Lexical Distance Among the Languages of the World

Message  gerardM le Dim 5 Jan - 21:41

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Etymologikon™
Language, Linguistics, Logic, and Life . . . . . . . . . . . . . by Teresa Elms
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A pity Teresa Elms posted 2 articles only, in February and March 2008 (the second article is Nonlinearity in Language: Chomsky Was Right ).

However, the links on the left look good:

Resources
Ethnologue
Indoeuropean Research Center
Max Planck Institute
SIL Resources List

Bartleby
Double Tongued Dictionary
Urban Dictionary

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Message  gerardM le Dim 5 Jan - 22:06

There are several Teresa Elms and Theresa Elms.

The one who dealt with linguistics became -as far as I know- an IT woman and presently works in a univ.

There she is on the Internet:
-> (Facebook) https://www.facebook.com/teresa.elms
Technical Writer, à DataDirect Networks
Auparavant : Serena Software
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A étudié Applied Linguistics à UCLA
Auparavant : California State University, Northridge et Carnegie Mellon University
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DataDirect Networks  /  Technical Writer · avril 2012 à aujourd’hui
Serena Software  /  Staff Technical Writer · janvier 2002 - avril 2012
UCLA  /  2010 - 2012 · Applied Linguistics · Los Angeles
California State University, Northridge  /  MA · Linguistique · Northridge
Carnegie Mellon University  /  MS · Cognitive Psychology · Pittsburgh
CA Merced  /  Merced
-> (LinkedIn) http://www.linkedin.com/in/telms
Descriptif de Teresa Elms
Poste actuel Technical Writer chez  DataDirect Networks
Postes précédents Staff Technical Writer chez  Serena Software
Director of Research & Publications chez  Elms Information Services Group
Senior Editor chez  Computer Economics
Senior Editor & Staff Writer chez  Duke Communications (Penton)
Formation University of California, Los Angeles
California State University-Northridge
San Diego State University-California State University
Carnegie Mellon University
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Organisations de Teresa Elms
International Society for Gesture Studies (ISGS)
Linguistic Society of America (LSA)
Mensa
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Formation de Teresa Elms
University of California, Los Angeles PhD coursework,  Applied Linguistics  2010 – 2012 Résultat obtenu : 3.95
California State University-Northridge M.A.,  Linguistics  2005 – 2012
San Diego State University-California State University  Business administration  1989 – 1991  Graduate coursework in marketing, finance, and accounting.
Carnegie Mellon University  M.S.,  cognitive psychology   1974 – 1976
-> other links
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---> http://ucla.academia.edu/TeresaElms

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Re: Lexical Distance Among the Languages of the World

Message  gerardM le Mar 7 Jan - 23:18

Hi everyone,

The diagram posted in initial message is reproduced there -> World Language Classroom Resources
Thank you to Teresa Elms at Etymologikon for putting this fascinating information together, which is based on original research data from K. Tyshchenko (1999), Metatheory of Linguistics.
It's on the blog of a teacher
I have been teaching World Language (French, Spanish, Italian) at the elementary, middle and high school levels for 17 years.  I regularly present foreign language teaching methodology and cultural enrichment workshops at state (MA, NY, NH, NJ), regional (NECTFL) and national (NNELL, ACTFL) conferences and in university teacher preparation programs.

As you can see, there are oodles of "French Teaching Resources" on the right.

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Re: Lexical Distance Among the Languages of the World

Message  gerardM le Mar 7 Jan - 23:29

Hi,

The diagram was also used on another Web site -> http://linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/3006/is-there-a-list-of-mutually-intelligible-languages

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Re: Lexical Distance Among the Languages of the World

Message  MurielB le Mar 7 Jan - 23:35

75% of the modern English vocabulary comes from French and Latin rather than Germanic sources due the French presence (William of Normandy) in England in 1066
Hi Gérard, everyone
I knew that a lot of English vocabulary comes from French and Latin but 75% is a lot C\'est vrai!! and i had no idea of that number..

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Message  gerardM le Mar 7 Jan - 23:48

Muriel,

I posted another figure which is a bit lower: 29% from French, 29% from Latin ie 58%, (plus 26% from German)
-> Origins of English PieChart

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Message  gerardM le Mer 8 Jan - 14:46

Hi Muriel, hi everyone,

OMG

> A pity Teresa Elms posted 2 articles only
I thought this blog was dead.
Teresa posted 2 articles only, back to 2008.

I noticed several very recent postings. I subscribed to Etymilogikon yesterday evening and responded to 2 posts, with my tiny knowledge.

This blog is not dead! Imagine that in the night I received about 600 notifications which means that 600 responses were written in the night!
Here's te last one:
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Barna commented on Lexical Distance Among the Languages of Europe.
in response to Piotr:
@Piotrek Lesser and Upper Sorbian from Lusatia. But how Hungarian is related to Lithuanian or Latvian? Ukrainian maybe, thanks to Carpathian Ruthenia but it’s weak. They may have rather some connections with Turkish or German thanks to historical domination of the Sublime Porte and Habsburg Empire.
very good question! Surprised
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I can't believe it!

I'm right suggesting visitors to read comments as well...

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Message  gerardM le Sam 11 Jan - 17:10

Hi everyone,

I stay on this thread even though my posting is about languages in the world (and not only Europe).

Another picture with a few figures that I can hardly read.

(click pic to access original pic and comments)

Remember this figure: there are 6,000 languages in the world.

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Message  gerardM le Sam 11 Jan - 17:17

Hi there,

Another good document: it's a 20-page PDF... Linguistic Distance: A Quantitative Measure of the Distance Between English and Other Languages
It was published in August 2004 by a very serious institute: Institute for the Study of Labor (IZA) in Bonn.

It's so serious that there's not the tiniest diagram but oodles of words and figures: rather boring to read but so rich! Read it! Smile

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Message  gerardM le Sam 11 Jan - 17:20

Hi there,

Another very good document: the web site of FIS-Frankfurt International School - big and rich.

-> A guide to learning English .. all your English needs ..

Use it! Enjoy!

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Message  gerardM le Dim 12 Jan - 18:31

Hi everyone,

I guess I already posted this map but it's well in this thread so: here it is again!

Church


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Message  gerardM le Dim 12 Jan - 18:36

Hi everyone,

Another map with another word.

Wine


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Message  gerardM le Dim 12 Jan - 18:43

Hi everyone,

Another map with another word.

Tea


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Message  gerardM le Dim 12 Jan - 18:47

Hi everyone,

Another map with another word.

Germany


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Message  gerardM le Dim 12 Jan - 18:49

Members of Facebook can follow the  European Observatory for Plurilingualism clicking the previous link.

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Message  gerardM le Jeu 16 Jan - 22:35

Hi everyone,

As I already wrote it, even though the initial diagram was published in 2008, there still are comments posted.

A recent exchange that I find interesting regarding Basque:
AMAIUR -
As far as I know (with the right of Basque speaker) I know that the basque is a non-Indo-European language, as the Finish and the Hungarian mean to be. But if the article is about the “Lexical Distance Among the Languages of Europe”, I feel the basque should appear too (more over 50% of the [...]
Jeff S said 15 January 2014 at 10:45 pm
The presence of loan words in a language is no demonstration of genetic relationship at all. English has borrowed lexical items from a wide variety of languages, many of which aren’t even Indoeuropean. Basque, as I have stated in another entry, is a language isolate which a number of researchers now think was spoken by a population that originally had lived well spread out within Europe and was millenia ago pushed further westward and,ultimately, into Spain by Indoeuropean speakers, and up into the Pyrenees where no one else wanted to settle. This theory was published in the Science section of the New York Times a few years ago. It is a conjecture, but no one has come up with a better one.

Except for the fact that Bask is spoken around the Basque Mountains and not around the Pyrenees, where Catalan is spoken…

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